Somehow shooting a round the same diameter as the old pellet gun I grew up shooting feels good. The AccuTrigger is crisp, breaking cleanly at 1.134kgs and recoil is too light to be felt which results in the rifle sitting steady on a rest with no perceptible movement. It was designed exclusively as a varmint round, though it is suitable for smaller predators.There are those such as P.O. 22 Hornet drops 5.8" and is blown off target by 7" in a meagre 5 MPH cross wind The 17 Hornet - drops only 2" and drifts 2.8" in comparison. Basically just a fun toy for plinking paper. The bolt face is the same size, but case dimensions are completely different. Last year, on our week long treck, I took a 204 Ruger, two 223's, two 6mm Remingtons, and for the fun of it a 375 H&H AI and and scoped Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 Mag. I have the .17 Hornet and a .223. Some loss of cases may occur during fireforming, but the 17 Hornet is a good one for single-shot rifle fans and exhibits decent ballistics for its size. 17-223 IS NOT a 17 Remington! The little .17 Hornet launches a 20 grain bullet at 3650 fps and the .17 Rem. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Remington brass is lousy. I’m betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. A few even recommended either a .243 or a 6mm as a good, "stop them in their tracks kind of gun". I also had one of the 700 Classics, just to try out. vs. .300 Win. The .17 Remington Fireball introduced a few years ago is a somewhat larger edition of the .17 Hornet, but the Fireball is less than trendy. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. You will find the smallest commercial cartridges available are the .17-inch bores, and while they’ve been around exactly as long as I have, the shooting public seems to have an on-again-off-again relationship with the .17s. Ackley who used it on much larger game, but such use is not typical. Fireball VS .17 Remington Just curious about my options. Thanks .17 Hornet This .17-caliber version of P.O. Although it shares the name and pays homage to it, the .17 Hornet is a very different thing from the .22 Hornet. Mag. factory rounds suck! #2808223 - 03/04/15 04:14 PM Re: .17 Hornet vs .17 Remington [Re: TheWolf57] AubreyD. Hunting Ammunition : Best Bullet For Your Game Without Destroying It. 17 HMR VS 17 HORNET I like the 17 Hornet it does something crazy like 3600 fps Any input on ether the 17 HMR or the 17 HORNET Thanks….. as the 22 Hornet (uses the existing action). I can get dies for both, brass is easy for the .17 Rem when .223 cases are around. I am having problems with my .17 HMR. The new issue of Rifle has a review of the CZ527 for 22 hornet and they mention ed that the 527 can be had in a 222 remington. Die Hard Member Registered: 03/07/13 Posts: 528 Loc: Freestone county Texas I own both CZ's and Savage's and to me yes the CZ is a much more quality rifle. v -max 4 coyote DRT ( dead right there ) no pass thru 1 fox couple exit holes need sewn / not as bad as 17 holes You hit bone get out the needle. Either gun will just be a range toy or rare varminting. 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball - posted in Varminter Magazine - Main Hunting Discussion Forum: I am simply curious as to the opinions of others. I did a primer test with .17 Hornet yesterday. Basically just a fun toy for plinking paper. Ackley’s .22 Hornet was introduced by Hornady in 2011, likely to compete with Remington’s Fireball . Interestingly, the impact energy also favours the 17 cal The 17 cal delivers 290 FPE compared to the 22 Hornets - 196 FPE I shoot just about everything suppressed but even unsuppressed the 17 Hornet isn't particularly loud and is MUCH quieter than my 204. Velocity is close to the .17 Remington but with significantly less powder, and therefore less heat and fouling. I had zapped numerous crows with mine and a chuck or two. The .17 Remington Fireball introduced a few years ago is a somewhat larger edition of the .17 Hornet, but the Fireball is less than trendy. Fireball so hard? ... #2387923 - 01/07/13 04:24 PM Re: 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball [Re: 1happyshooter] Mike B Die Hard Member III Registered: 01/31/02 Posts: 2715 Loc: central PA .17 Rem (top) v .22-250 (bottom) Q: I own a Remington Model 700 in .17 Remington that has been rebarreled with a Maddco barrel 600mm long and shoots groups averaging .25". Fireball launches a 25 grain bullet at 3850 fps. the 25 vmax has a much better bc then any hornet bullet. factory rounds suck! Fireball VS .17 Remington Just curious about my options. Ackley had experimented with .172-inch diameter bullets in the early 1950s, but the release of the .17 Remington was the first commercial release of a .17 caliber centerfire – being offered in the highly successful Model 700—and if nothing more, the cartridge was all about speed. Cartridges like the .204 Rug., .17 Rem., and .223 Rem., on the other end of the spectrum, typically blow huge holes in the hides. As far as I know, Remington is the only major arms manufacturer currently producing .17 Remington and .17 Fireball rifles. I liked it so much that I bought a 700 VS and had it rebarreled to a .17 Rem with an HS-Precision barrel. I am considering either the .17 Remington or a .17 Hornet. If it were me I would make a straight 17 Remington or a 17-204 which is about the same as the 17 Rem for the most part. I’m betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. 17 Remington is the 222 Mag necked down with shoulder bumped back. Shop Great Deals for .17 Hornet in our Rifles Department | Sportsman's Guide The 17 Rem is a heck of a little round IF and only IF you reload! I like the 17 Hornet but do not really call it my coyote gun but would use it if under 100 yds. Mag. Owning a .17-caliber rifle comes with its own set of challenges (a specialty cleaning rod must be ordered, and it’s very easy to wedge a patch in the bore), but among the centerfire choices, including the .17 Fireball, I like the .17 Hornet. The .17 Remington is based on the .223 Remington or the .222 Remington Magnum, depending on which account you read, though looking at the design, the .222 Remington Magnum makes more sense to me. .17 Remington Fireball, in HuntingMag.com. Give me some input on both rifles. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. powered by 17… It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. I’ve used it for foxes and coyotes here in the northeast, and it’s proven itself on a hot prairie dog town. Perhaps the greatest buzz from shooting the .17 Hornet is the almost total absence of recoil. The .17 is not as quiet as the Hornet and adds the additional complication of requiring .17 caliber bullets and cleaning rods which are not always easy to find. The Remington Model 7 used to be available in .17 and it would make a good walking around … looks better then the 17 Rem. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet w The .17 Remington Fireball was created in 2007 by Remington Arms Company as a response to the popular wildcat round, the .17 Mach IV.Factory loads drive a 20 grain (1.3 g) bullet around 4,000 ft/s (1,219 m/s). More recent cartridges like the .17 HMR, and the .17 Fireball have been released in the last 10 years and have given other similar rounds some competition. We've got you covered.• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. , than differences.. T he .17 Hornet is the quintessential mid-range varmint cartridge—regardless if you’re hunting east or west of the Mississippi River. Lower cost and comparable quality to the 17 Fireball and 223 Rem. Kudos to Hornady for recognizing the potential of the design, and for bringing it to the masses. I shoot just about everything suppressed but even unsuppressed the 17 Hornet isn't particularly loud and is MUCH quieter than my 204. The 17 Rem is a heck of a little round IF and only IF you reload! I do believe the 17 hornet will not be as hard on barrels as the 204! Researched both calibers very well with balistics and reloading. In general I'd say there's at least 100 yards difference in consistent performance, maybe more like 150. Although as most people in this world I am a little bias as toward my own. 17 Remington Rifle Cartridge by Nosler Inc. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: Based on a necked down 223 Remington case, it is generally chambered in bolt rifles, but could be used in AR platforms. Tip Lead Free bullets had an average velocity of 2752 f.p.s. I weighed everything they said, but found myself looking more and more at the .17 Remington. About two years prior to the birth of the 17 Hornet I had a custom 17 Ackley Hornet built on a CZ527. For smaller sized game, the little 17 Hornet is one of the most fun little guns I own. 17 Hornet 20gr. Die Hard Member Registered: 03/07/13 Posts: 528 Loc: Freestone county Texas I own both CZ's and Savage's and to me yes the CZ is a much more quality rifle. Most of us are now familiar with the .17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) and its centre-fire predecessor, the .17 Remington. 17-223 IS NOT a 17 Remington! This was with 9.3 gr of Lil'Gun with 20 gr VMax and Hornady brass. Stuff just dies and you can barely tell they were hit with anything. Being rimfire, and therefore virtually un-reloadable, the cartridges are a one-and-done proposition. Less fouling, barrel wear, powder and pressure compared to the 17 Rem. I myself have never fired a 17 Rem.. Others brought 22-250's and one had a 22-250 AI besides their 223's. But, for the hunter who wants a rifle that can reach out for the occasional 150-yard shot, without the report of the smaller centerfires — like the .17 Hornet and .17 Remington — the .17-caliber rimfires have an appeal. I've owned every type of 17,out there I stop reloading when Hornady & Remington came out with loaded rounds.FYI 17/Hornet Ammo is cheaper then 17WSM. Being able to use good Lapua brass is another plus. .17 Remington or .17 Hornet. We now had .17 caliber varmint cartridges that could be compared to the .22 Hornet, .22-250 and .220 Swift; three of the four major velocity niches occupied by established centerfire .22 varmint cartridges. My collection will always include a .223 and .308 rifle. Last fall, my dad brought his new Savage M25 to Afognak, and after taking a few foxes with it, I knew I had to have one. As far as I know, Remington is the only major arms manufacturer currently producing .17 Remington and .17 Fireball rifles. Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. The introduction of the .17 HMR in 2002 rekindled the flame which was started by the .17 Remington in 1971. Ackley also modified the venerable .22 Hornet, necking it down to .17, but Hornady’s 2011 release of the commercialized .17 Hornet grabbed some attention. It feels even better shooting a projectile at more than twice the weight and twice the speed. V-max - 5 fox - 4 of the 5 need sewn from large exit holes 1 coyote chest shot at 100 yards spun & run no recovery 204 Ruger 40 gr. Lower cost and comparable quality to the 17 Fireball and 223 Rem. For smaller sized game, the little 17 Hornet is one of the most fun little guns I own. That said, owning both and shooting both is sort of like owning and shooting a 243 and a 6 mm !! 17 HMR VS 17 HORNET I like the 17 Hornet it does something crazy like 3600 fps Any input on ether the 17 HMR or the 17 HORNET Thanks….. My handloads in the .17 Hornet get around 3800, but with the 20-grain V-Max, which holds on to velocity better than the 17-grain bullets in the HMR. I have owned two of them. The taper of the case is different and the shoulder is 25 degrees necked down to the .17 bullet. Fireball. I don't use magnum primers because I believe they actually degraded accuracy in my loads. Remington has 2 loads for the 17 Rem. Fireball. It was designed exclusively as a varmint round, though it is suitable for smaller predators.There are those such as P.O. My test were between CCI 400, WSR and Remington 6 1/2. The small bore fouls easily, and you can see accuracy degrade in as little as ten shots in certain rifles, but they are a death ray on varmints and predators. Assuming a 200-yard zero for both cartridges, and using a 20-grain bullet for comparative purposes, the .17 Remington will hit about two inches higher at 300 yards than will the .17 Hornet (4.6 inches of drop for the Remington vs. 6.4 inches for the Hornet), yet in the hands of an experienced rifleman, that difference can easily be accounted for. But I often see more simularity's between my 22 Hornet and 223 Rem. Wow Your not Hi on the 223 or the 17s, I'm a 17/Hornet shooter from 1960 my first was built on my 1937-M-70 by P.O.Ackley in PA. Looking at the 2 calibers mostly for a short range varmint rifle, 100 - 150 yds max. Massively better performance. Very nice caliber for varmints! The .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.. The 17WSM I have seen work over prairie dogs was impressive but the 17HMR is a much better choice for a rimfire rifle. Between the two, I find the .17 Hornet to be the more efficient, affordable and sensible choice. Both are important issues to high-volume shooters such as varmint hunters. And having a 17 Hornet for the longer shots make sense. The 17 Remington Fireball, based on the classic .221 Remington Fireball case, is an extremely well balanced cartridge that provides laser-flat trajectory, with match grade accuracy, all in a compact package that does not require excessive maintenance and won’t burn out barrels. Both shoot better than I can shoot them. I have both, 17 Hornet and 204, both are CZ 527 Varmint models. Wow Your not Hi on the 223 or the 17s, I'm a 17/Hornet shooter from 1960 my first was built on my 1937-M-70 by P.O.Ackley in PA. Let’s take a look at the .17 Remington and the .17 Hornet and compare and contrast their attributes. but they chamber 8 rifles in the 17 Rem. Ackley who used it on much larger game, but such use is not typical. Dennis I have both the 204 and 17 hornet and believe you are correct. But, in a good rifle, the .17 Remington can be a very accurate cartridge, and has very little recoil, though the report is on the loud side for the size of the projectile. I took some time yesterday and called Remington. 17 Mach IV vs. the 17 Remington, in RifleMagazine.com. The 17 Hornet – an economical, fun .17 caliber centerfire cartridge that puts the STING on varmints out to 300 yards! The .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.. Famed gunsmith and cartridge developer P.O. The latest of the SAAMI standardized centerfire .17's is the .17 Hornet, designed and introduced by Hornady. I have a thing for small bore rifles. I'm just looking to build a new coyote rifle and was wondering about the difference between the Tac 17 & the 17 Rem. as the 22 Hornet – uses the existing action Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem… Remington doesn't even chamber a rifle for the 17 Rem. The .223 Rem. It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. Ackley in the early 1950s. The muzzle velocities generated by the .17 Hornet run considerably slower than the .17 Remington—3650 fps for the 20-grain load, and 3870 fps for the lighter 15.5-grain NTX load from Hornady—yet the pressures, barrel wear and fouling are also less than those associated with the larger-cased .17 Remington. This little cartridge is small in size and cost, but big in performance. yes it uses more powder. Looking at the ballistics, the 17 Rem. The relatively new .17 Hornet filled the void perfectly for me. it is also better in the wind then the hornet. Tip Lead Free bullets had an average velocity of 2752 f.p.s. Cartridges like the .204 Rug., .17 Rem., and .223 Rem., on the other end of the spectrum, typically blow huge holes in the hides. driving a 55gn bullet at 3200fps sighted-in 50mm high at 100 metres for a 200 metre zero, shows 25mm more drop at 250 than the .17 Hornet but retains 565 ft/lb of energy which gives it over twice as much hitting power as the .17 Hornet at that distance. the 17 rem is more then 300 fps over the hornet. Mag. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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It is nice, almost silent, and laser accurate at the ranges I use it for, but it just does not have the stopping power to take coyotes reliably. Friday, December 20, 2019. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? I would not get rid of either of these little screamers. Same C.O.L. I have a .17 HMR and I love it. Some of the newer CZ's have a pretty rough action from the factory. The new issue of Rifle has a review of the CZ527 for 22 hornet and they mention ed that the 527 can be had in a 222 remington. 3,650 fps muzzle velocity with a 20 gr. Either gun will just be a range toy or rare varminting. The slight five-degree shoulder of the .22 Hornet was radically steepened to a 25-degree shoulder and blown-out to increase case capacity. The .17 Hornet, son of the classic .22 Hornet that our grandfathers delighted in shooting, is a well-balanced design. and only 1 load for the 17 Rem. He created this non-factory (wildcat) offering by simply necking-down the .22 Hornet to .17 caliber and fire-forming the resized cases in his new chamber design. The Savage Model 25 in .17 Hornet is a lot of fun to shoot. Werfen wir einen Blick auf die .17 Remington und die .17 Hornet und vergleichen und vergleichen wir ihre Eigenschaften. Last fall, my dad brought his new Savage M25 to Afognak, and after taking a few foxes with it, I knew I had to have one. P.O. Die .17 Remington basiert auf der .223 Remington oder der .222 Remington Magnum, je nachdem, welchen Bericht Sie lesen, aber wenn ich mir das Design ansehe, macht die .222 Remington Magnum für mich mehr Sinn. The easy rimfire is the HMR, partly because ammo is so available, and partly because the A17 ammo in a bolt rifle comes pretty close to .17 WSM ballistics. The Remington Model 7 used to be available in .17 and it would make a good walking around varmint rifle. Fireball. #2808223 - 03/04/15 04:14 PM Re: .17 Hornet vs .17 Remington [Re: TheWolf57] AubreyD. P.S. But if you really want a 17 and want to kill coyote consistently I would stick with the 17 Fireball or 17 Rem. It’s a bonified 350-yard coyote cartridge that’s currently chambered for Savage’s Model 25 bolt action . 17 Remington is the 222 Mag necked down with shoulder bumped back. Sharing the rimmed design of the parent case, the .17 Hornet feeds nicely in a bolt-action repeating rifle—I spent some time with a Savage Model 25 Walking Varminter which shot very well—and will handle both varmints and predators to the same 300 to 350 yards that the .17 Remington will. Less fouling, barrel wear, powder and pressure compared to the 17 Rem. Log in to see fewer ads Considering each of these for my next rifle purchase. Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem, but the felt recoil of a 22 WMR. Some would mention the .22-250 as the ultimate long range predator gun. No matter how you launch one of the 20 or 25-grain bullets, their weight and ballistic coefficient are so low that it makes the effects of wind deflection a definite consideration. I have a .17 HMR and I love it. Same C.O.L. I got a friend that is a coyote hunting machine and he swears by the 204. But, within 350 yards or so, the .17 Remington makes a great varmint and predator cartridge, as the frangible bullets make very small holes in a furbearer’s pelt—and usually don’t exit—yet have enough energy and a flat enough trajectory to place shots accurately on woodchucks and prairie dogs, creating that famous red mist. Some loss of cases may occur during fireforming, but the 17 Hornet is a good one for single-shot rifle fans and exhibits decent ballistics for its size. I have been thinking about buying a Savage 12VBSS in 223 Remington and rebarrel it to either 17 Rem or 222 Rem. .17 Rem (top) v .22-250 (bottom) Q: I own a Remington Model 700 in .17 Remington that has been rebarreled with a Maddco barrel 600mm long and shoots groups averaging .25". Werfen wir einen Blick auf die .17 Remington und die .17 Hornet und vergleichen und vergleichen wir ihre Eigenschaften. V-MAX bullet Same C.O.L. 17 REM vs 22 hornet Rifle. powered by 17… This short cartridge was initially chambered in Remington’s XP-100 bolt-action single-shot handgun. Is it more accurate? It feels even better shooting a projectile at more than twice the weight and twice the speed. Hornady has new brass for .17 Hornet. That said, I own and shoot two .17 Fireballs...Remington 700 and Encore. and well the 25 grain vmax may be lighter then bullets you can get for the 22 hornet. At these velocities, the bullets are subjected to all sorts of stresses upon impact, and I’ve seen some over-zealous handloads strip the jacket from the core of the bullets. I have been thinking about buying a Savage 12VBSS in 223 Remington and rebarrel it to either 17 Rem or 222 Rem. The latest of the SAAMI standardized centerfire .17's is the .17 Hornet, designed and introduced by Hornady. Log in. Why is Remington pushing the 17 Rem. The .17 is not as quiet as the Hornet and adds the additional complication of requiring .17 caliber bullets and cleaning rods which are not always easy to find. This little cartridge is small in size and cost, but big in performance. There have been many other variants of the .17 calibre. The majority of .17-caliber loads are centered around 20- and 25-grain bullets (there are component bullets as heavy as 30 grains), and the centerfire .17 cases attain some serious velocity. out of the rem and the 17 hornet i would pick the rem. I've owned every type of 17,out there I stop reloading when Hornady & Remington came out with loaded rounds.FYI 17/Hornet Ammo is cheaper then 17WSM. My averages for each are, WSR, 3672fps, CCI-400, 3676fps and Rem 6 1/2, 3659fps. I like the Hornet a lot but for practical handling and varmit blasting, the .204 s hard to beat with its .222 Mag case and .204 bore which is much easier to clean and manage than the .177. The muzzle velocities generated by the .17 Hornet run considerably slower than the .17 Remington—3650 fps for the 20-grain load, and 3870 fps for the lighter 15.5-grain NTX load from Hornady—yet the pressures, barrel wear and fouling are also less than those associated with the larger-cased .17 Remington. I have both, 17 Hornet and 204, both are CZ 527 Varmint models. The Bill Eichelberger line of cartridges uses .10-inch, .12-inch and .14-inch diameter bullets, though they are about as rare as hen’s teeth. The .17 Remington is an excellent varmint round, and the with a drop of just 3.17" at 250 yards this round is great for just that. DRT your taking something home. 17 REM vs 22 hornet. I am looking at a h&r .22-250 with a heavy barrel and the remmy 700 LVSF in the 17. Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem, but the felt recoil of a 22 WMR. 17 vs .22-250 - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: I am buying a new varmint gun to shoot pd's and coyotes. The Hornet ammo—available from Hornady and Federal—runs between $0.70 and $0.90 per round, while the .17 Remington ammo—available from Remington and Nosler—costs about $1.70 per round. Had I had any idea the 17 Hornet was coming (even if the 17AH is 200 FPS faster) I would have done the 17 Hornet instead. Im looking at CZ 527s and just cannot make up my mind. by Philip Massaro - The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum vs .22 Hornet ammo rounds. Die .17 Remington basiert auf der .223 Remington oder der .222 Remington Magnum, je nachdem, welchen Bericht Sie lesen, aber wenn ich mir das Design ansehe, macht die .222 Remington Magnum für mich mehr Sinn. I'd combine one of the rimfires with a .17 Hornet. The .17 Hornet is a .17 caliber centerfire rifle cartridge originally offered as a "wildcat cartridge" developed by P.O. This short cartridge was initially chambered in Remington’s XP-100 bolt-action single-shot handgun. An accurate .17 WSM is a good choice too, but still not anything like a .17 Hornet for longer shots. My collection will always include a .223 and .308 rifle. I can get about 3850 fps out of my 17 Rem with the 30's and the 4000+ fps barrier would just be just that little extra I'm looking for. They said the 17 Hornet is on the watch list and if they get enough response (emails preferred) from customers wanting one they will build it. With a 23-degree shoulder and a case length of 1.796 inches—the .223 Remington uses a 1.760-inch-long case—the .17 Remington often has a powder charge heavier than its bullet. P.S. I have not taken a 22 PD shooting for quite a while. Some of the newer CZ's have a pretty rough action from the factory. I also shoot .17 HMR, .222, .22 Hornet, and .223 in small caliber rounds. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 HMR Hornady Magnum Rimfire vs .22 Hornet ammo rounds. There are smaller bore diameters, but you’ll have to look long and hard to find them. 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